World of Warcraft

[Adny]

Opinions, opinions everywhere!

As an ex WoW player, I can say it is most certainly not the best game, especially after the Cataclysm expansion (which for those who don't know, many players have dubbed it the worst expansion yet). Level progression has become extremely linear (in other words, boring), and there are no high levels of competition anywhere in the game, (ie Arenas or Raiding) which is the main reason I left. WoW is designed to be addictive and take people's time and money away. It is generally a game that caters towards the "casual" player. PvP is generally a joke, as it revolves more around class than the actual player's skill (ie a bad Rogue can kill a good hunter without trying). Raiding (PvE) is simple, assuming you can get 10/25 players to communicate/do their jobs properly (which has a very low chance of happening). Raiding never appealed to me because there is always someone not doing their job correctly, and it costs everyone else. 5/10

I find it interesting that the OP included several specific games, like Deus Ex: Human Revolution/Crysis, only because I beat them recently. For Deus Ex, I enjoyed how it allowed the player to modify the protagonist in order to fit their style of playing. For me, it was very reminiscent of the original Splinter Cell games (as in not solely based around shooting/killing everyone like in the new Splinter Cells, but being more stealth oriented and tactical). For the ending, I felt like the creators of the game got lazy (I won't reveal any details about it in case anyone is interested in it). 7/10

The Gaming industry is just selling out. All the major company's keep pushing forward mindless FPS games so mediocre gamers can feel like pros. FPS are the easiest kind of gaming to "master", seeing how anyone with a controller and common sense can learn the mechanics and be "good" at it in a day. Little/no competition present in modern gaming. Activision doesn't even have to try anymore; they just slap a new title on a CoD game, add a few new guns and improve the graphics, and it automatically is the best selling/best reviewed game of the year.

Becoming a PC gamer is the best thing I've done gaming-wise. There are so many independently made games that could easily beat any console game in terms of gameplay and story, but even the best are unheard of by console players. It almost makes me feel sad for them, knowing they'll never experience the intense emotion behind "To the Moon" or the true terror of "Amnesia: The Dark Descent".

[Dagrocks]

World of Warcraft. I got soooo bored of that. Sometimes for me there is just too much space in a game, so I don't want to play it.

[Vaelwing22]

WoW started to fail during WotLK and then Cata, MoP will most likely make it worse >.<

[Adny]

(06-14-2012 07:54 AM)Vaelwing22 Wrote:  WoW started to fail during WotLK and then Cata, MoP will most likely make it worse >.<

Reworking all the classes/mechanics again... eventually they'll get it right

[Robosprog]

(06-13-2012 11:32 PM)andyrockin123 Wrote:  Opinions, opinions everywhere!

As an ex WoW player, I can say it is most certainly not the best game, especially after the Cataclysm expansion (which for those who don't know, many players have dubbed it the worst expansion yet). Level progression has become extremely linear (in other words, boring), and there are no high levels of competition anywhere in the game, (ie Arenas or Raiding) which is the main reason I left. WoW is designed to be addictive and take people's time and money away. It is generally a game that caters towards the "casual" player. PvP is generally a joke, as it revolves more around class than the actual player's skill (ie a bad Rogue can kill a good hunter without trying). Raiding (PvE) is simple, assuming you can get 10/25 players to communicate/do their jobs properly (which has a very low chance of happening). Raiding never appealed to me because there is always someone not doing their job correctly, and it costs everyone else. 5/10

I find it interesting that the OP included several specific games, like Deus Ex: Human Revolution/Crysis, only because I beat them recently. For Deus Ex, I enjoyed how it allowed the player to modify the protagonist in order to fit their style of playing. For me, it was very reminiscent of the original Splinter Cell games (as in not solely based around shooting/killing everyone like in the new Splinter Cells, but being more stealth oriented and tactical). For the ending, I felt like the creators of the game got lazy (I won't reveal any details about it in case anyone is interested in it). 7/10

The Gaming industry is just selling out. All the major company's keep pushing forward mindless FPS games so mediocre gamers can feel like pros. FPS are the easiest kind of gaming to "master", seeing how anyone with a controller and common sense can learn the mechanics and be "good" at it in a day. Little/no competition present in modern gaming. Activision doesn't even have to try anymore; they just slap a new title on a CoD game, add a few new guns and improve the graphics, and it automatically is the best selling/best reviewed game of the year.

Becoming a PC gamer is the best thing I've done gaming-wise. There are so many independently made games that could easily beat any console game in terms of gameplay and story, but even the best are unheard of by console players. It almost makes me feel sad for them, knowing they'll never experience the intense emotion behind "To the Moon" or the true terror of "Amnesia: The Dark Descent".

Never included Deus Ex Human Revolution or Crysis, meant the original Deus Ex.
But honestly, people. Cataclysm basically made 1-60 much superior, and 80-85 was amazing. How anyone can say that it made levelling boring is beyond me. They added phasing to most zones, the quests were all fairly innovative but of course there was the standard boar quests etc.

The questing was much better, and opinion or not, I cannot see how anyone says the questing got worse, same with WoTLK. Sure I can see how you would think the raiding and pvp began to deteriorate but.. questing? No. Can't imagine how people think it got worse, other than that I respect your opinion on this.

[Dogfood]

Blizzard lack originality. As i already said in my previous post, WoW is full of references to internet jokes, comedy movies and other games.

I can no longer take a RP game seriously when mobs are yelling "HALP!", bosses named Herp'derp (Yes there are bosses named like that and an ogre exactly like that), 80% achievement names once again references to movies and other games.

Blizzard is doing a lazy job with game models

And i have noticed that they add a lot more items to the blizzard store. Items that should be avaliable to everyone ingame (since it's a monthly fee game).

It seems to me like they are just trying to milk as much money as possible from WoW, before they can dump it and release the new game they are working on

[Xanatos]

My favourite games ever are Thief II and Assassin's Creed but I haven't played them in over a year. The quality of a game isn't based on how much you play it, but on how much you value the experience.

[Robosprog]

(06-14-2012 02:42 PM)Xanatos Wrote:  My favourite games ever are Thief II and Assassin's Creed but I haven't played them in over a year. The quality of a game isn't based on how much you play it, but on how much you value the experience.

I base quality off mechanics and balance etc. But yeah, value of experience is important.

[Carrna]

I've been playing WoW since BC came out. I still think BC was my favourite expansion and holy/disc priest during BC was probably the most entertaining thing I've ever played. During my first years I concentrated only in raiding, though I was also very interested in lore and thus read all quest descriptions and didn't hurry with leveling.

I'm glad things aren't nowadays as hardly obtainable as they were in Vanilla. I admit BC has some nostalgy value for me since I started playing at the beginning of it, but I still think things back then weren't either too difficult or too easy. You had to see some trouble for getting what you want but you didn't need to go no-life because of it. One of my favs was especially getting an honored reputation with factions by questing before you could enter into hc versions of instances. That way people had to practice in normal versions before jumping into heroics and wiping everyone else in them.

WotLK had interesting quests and I also liked raids, but still the system started to pat lazy people too much in the head. Heroic instances started to drop epics that used to be raids only stuff. Many epic worshipping people lost interest in raids because they were only after epics. Since they were obtained so easily from vendors and heroics, people just bought or farmed them and then started idling in Org wearing their shiny gear. At this point I decided I've had enough and had about 1½ years break from WoW. Some time after releasing Cata a friend managed to talk me to come back and try it again.

In my opinion, Cata had awesome quests and once again I enjoyed the raids, but the virtual dick competition had just become worse. Epics were even more easily obtainable by purchasing justice points which you get from normal instances. Plus, people no more seemed to do raids for fun. It was just about dps and heal meters and competing who would top them. People were even forgiven if they were standing in crap and causing more work for healers if it helped them to top the meter. Thanks to the topper the bosses were killed, and everyone else below him sucked. And then there's LFG, omg. People behave just terribly towards each other since they think they'll never see each other again so they don't need to be polite. It's pretty rare to get a nice group because of this.

I got fed up quickly because of the atmosphere and was about to quit again, but then another friend asked me to come to try an RP server. I haven't regretted even a second. It's like another world, really. If I had known there's people this kind in WoW I would've switched servers years ago and saved a lot of my nerves. No one uses the goddamn meters while instances or raids. No one cares about the numbers as long as bosses go down. People also like to do older raids, if not for RP gear then just for fun. People from different guilds play pve and RP with each other. On my previous server people were only with their own guilds.

So yeah. I'm totally not quitting. I'm feeling like I just started to really enjoy this game. And I'm really waiting for Mists of Pandaria. The trailer looks awesome. (:

Also a bit about the graphics. Personally I think WoW's graphics are very beautiful and I like it how it's not realistic. I find most of perfectly realistic games boring looking. While playing games I don't want to see same stuff I can see from my own window. There's different looking races and everyone should be able to pick the one they like most. I'm also a fan of "shiny stuff" and I want my character to look as epic as possible. Just because. I've got bank full of stuff I've collected and that I can change when feeling like it.

I don't either find RPing by using chat and emotes as a problem. My imagination isn't that poor I'd need to see stuff truly happening that I could feel something because of it or react to it. I'm not exaggerating that during my time on RP server I've got the biggest laughs of my life.

Ps. Anyone from Moonglade? : D

[Robosprog]

(06-23-2012 08:16 PM)Carrna Wrote:  Ps. Anyone from Moonglade? : D

Defias Brotherhood fo' life (until last years october) mofo.